This post was very straight-forward and offered great counterpoints. I am often wondering why Protestant Pastors feel the need to make extreme claims such as these, when many of them don't have anything solid to stand on. I felt like you did a really good job of charitably showing the flaws in the arguments presented.
Who is this guy and why does what he says matter? Why does what any Protestant says about the Church matter? Nothing we say will change their heretical beliefs. Given that most people who identify as Catholic are ignorant of their religion let’s focus on them. Yeah, I know this isn’t what the “popular kids” say but a lot of the people in our pews on Sunday are heading down the road to Hell because no one is teaching them the Truth.
I am a Protestant. Please do not take Mark Driscoll as representative of Biblical Christianity. He is undisciplined, domineering and is a loose cannon when he speaks. He is arguably a plagiarist and has admitted the misuse of church funds. The Gospel of Jesus Christ has not changed, we are saved through grace by faith in Jesus, His atoning death on the cross and His resurrection to bring us eternal life. Catholic or Protestant, this is the salvation message of the Bible.
At first I might be tempted to take offence, but honestly it actually makes me more concerned with him. Seems like a very worldly version of the Gospel is informing his view of leadership. If a person isn’t strong enough to be in control of their sexual appetites and worldly allures of mammon, that might say more about a counterfeit type of masculinity that is actually enslaved to the lessor things. Priests who become wealthy or act on sexual impulses despite their calling and commitment are weak too.
Going without an extra tunic, and choosing not to Marry for the sake of the Kingdom are qualities Christ thinks are good. To rebuke these is to rebuke his very way of life.
This was the title of all titles. Clickbait has been transcended to the next evolutionary stage. I laughed for 5 minutes straight after reading that title.
Just to be clear, Jesus and the Apostles never used the deuterocanon. It was never mentioned a single time in the NT, or even in the OT. There's no cross references, and no mention of any of the books in the main 66 books of the Bible. So how can you prove it's canon?
Is this the guy that says God is okay with butt sex with your wife? Look into this guys history - clearly pretty disturbed individual who nobody should be looking to for spiritual advice.
I have found that the anti-catholic rhetoric found in a lot of protestant pastors is due to a need to justify their existence outside of the catholic church. If they were to say anything positive about her, they would nullify their purpose. I have heard much of the same preaching from my MIL when i married her son. Who is now catholic. I ended up sending her the catechism of the catholic church, and offered her to check that book before believing what her preachers say about the catholic church. THEN, if you have an issue of disagreement, we can discuss that. I have found it was the ‘preaching at me’ that was really at the heart of it, not trying to understand what the church teaches.
I am a former Protestant. Driscoll's clams are not unfamiliar to me. I came to similar conclusions as this response long ago. That was even before there was Catholic Answers. I have met a fair number of Protestant clergy and could regale him with tales about how "weird" they were. Maybe he should consider the log in his own eye?
This post was very straight-forward and offered great counterpoints. I am often wondering why Protestant Pastors feel the need to make extreme claims such as these, when many of them don't have anything solid to stand on. I felt like you did a really good job of charitably showing the flaws in the arguments presented.
In case you are interested in reading, I've written a post on the Papacy where I touch on the "bad Popes" idea: https://open.substack.com/pub/thegentlenudge/p/theres-something-fishy-about-the?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=2k266z
Thank you!!!
I’ll check out your link as well!
Who is this guy and why does what he says matter? Why does what any Protestant says about the Church matter? Nothing we say will change their heretical beliefs. Given that most people who identify as Catholic are ignorant of their religion let’s focus on them. Yeah, I know this isn’t what the “popular kids” say but a lot of the people in our pews on Sunday are heading down the road to Hell because no one is teaching them the Truth.
I am a Protestant. Please do not take Mark Driscoll as representative of Biblical Christianity. He is undisciplined, domineering and is a loose cannon when he speaks. He is arguably a plagiarist and has admitted the misuse of church funds. The Gospel of Jesus Christ has not changed, we are saved through grace by faith in Jesus, His atoning death on the cross and His resurrection to bring us eternal life. Catholic or Protestant, this is the salvation message of the Bible.
At first I might be tempted to take offence, but honestly it actually makes me more concerned with him. Seems like a very worldly version of the Gospel is informing his view of leadership. If a person isn’t strong enough to be in control of their sexual appetites and worldly allures of mammon, that might say more about a counterfeit type of masculinity that is actually enslaved to the lessor things. Priests who become wealthy or act on sexual impulses despite their calling and commitment are weak too.
Going without an extra tunic, and choosing not to Marry for the sake of the Kingdom are qualities Christ thinks are good. To rebuke these is to rebuke his very way of life.
This was the title of all titles. Clickbait has been transcended to the next evolutionary stage. I laughed for 5 minutes straight after reading that title.
Just to be clear, Jesus and the Apostles never used the deuterocanon. It was never mentioned a single time in the NT, or even in the OT. There's no cross references, and no mention of any of the books in the main 66 books of the Bible. So how can you prove it's canon?
Is this the guy that says God is okay with butt sex with your wife? Look into this guys history - clearly pretty disturbed individual who nobody should be looking to for spiritual advice.
I have found that the anti-catholic rhetoric found in a lot of protestant pastors is due to a need to justify their existence outside of the catholic church. If they were to say anything positive about her, they would nullify their purpose. I have heard much of the same preaching from my MIL when i married her son. Who is now catholic. I ended up sending her the catechism of the catholic church, and offered her to check that book before believing what her preachers say about the catholic church. THEN, if you have an issue of disagreement, we can discuss that. I have found it was the ‘preaching at me’ that was really at the heart of it, not trying to understand what the church teaches.
Well done!!
I am a former Protestant. Driscoll's clams are not unfamiliar to me. I came to similar conclusions as this response long ago. That was even before there was Catholic Answers. I have met a fair number of Protestant clergy and could regale him with tales about how "weird" they were. Maybe he should consider the log in his own eye?