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Josh Knautz's avatar

Brother, I am a protestant with love for catholics and their tradition. But if “The case for Catholicism” is meant to reach outside a non-catholic echo chamber, this writing falls woefully short. If you think protestants don’t have robust rebuttals to your points, as it seems you feel, you have really missed the mark.

Point #1 really wasn’t a point but a lead in to point #2:

this makes no mention or rationalization of the wide ranging and disparate beliefs of many of the early church fathers, this is all within reason, but many came to different positions on a great many things. How could this be if they all had the Holy Spirit? This has occurred all throughout catholic church history, even until now, heck, even the canon evolved. I’d imagine you walk away from reading the bible with some different interpretations than Pope Francis, i’m positive John Paul II would.

To posit that because i read my Bible and come to a different interpretation of some things than the catholic church is because I don’t have the Holy Spirit is an ugly sentiment and beneath you id assume (Not knowing you but giving you the presumption of grace).

point #3 Not sure how you mean the church was infallible before the bible was canonized. Half the new testament was written to rebuke members of the early church. They also had 3/4 of the bible written at that time and the last 1/4 came within a generation. And none of the church activity looked like modern catholic ecclesiology. These were primarily house churches with “husband of one wife” elders and overseers.

I think you can do better than to degrade the protestant tradition by insinuating that we have no answers to those points. Those are just passing rebuttals from a protestant perspective.

Lastly, i genuinely hope to bridge the gap between our faith traditions and this must be done in good faith. If you have confessed with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believed in your heart that God raised him from the dead, i believe you will be saved. I hope you can extend the same courtesy to me and everyone i love. i wish the best for you and your family and for your faith tradition and hope we can both serve God to our fullest potential in our chosen traditions. God bless!

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Word Nerd's avatar

You are right. The church was here and people were following Jesus before the Bible was written. This just recently hit me duh duh. The whole sola scriptura thing - not going for it. And yes if everyone was listening to the same Holy Spirit there wouldn't be all these varied beliefs etc. There are many false prophets and many are deceived. We have to discern the difference. Well i could go on. I write about some of this stuff...

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